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Open to Suggestions

Here's what I think you should consider in 2011. Feel free to return the favor
Matt Kramer
Posted: January 4, 2011

The beginning of a new year is irresistible not just to columnists, but to all of us really. Like the start of a new school term, consciously and otherwise we all have a need for the proverbial tabula rasa, or blank slate. I'm sure those with theological training will suggest an inner need for redemption, which a new start seemingly provides.

Whatever the motive, I do like the idea of starting, if not afresh, at least with a renewed resolve. What follows is what I think that you might consider. But it's a two-way street here on Internet Alley. As I say up front, I'm "open to suggestion." Here, to begin, is what I suggest:

Stop Fussing About "Saving" Opened Wine

I can't tell you the number of times I've been asked about the best way to save or preserve an unfinished bottle of wine.

Many people use one of those vacuum pump gizmos. Allow me to be direct: Those vacuum pumps are worthless. They don't work, however satisfying they seem to be. Trust me on this. These pumps have been tested and they lose their vacuum literally overnight.

So what does work? Your local refrigerator. Nothing—and I mean nothing—is more effective in reducing oxidation than cold. This was neatly explained to us a century ago by the Nobel prize–winning Swedish chemist Svante August Arrhenius (1859–1927), in a well-known (to chemists) formula called the Arrhenius equation.

Arrhenius demonstrated that if you have an increase of 18° F (7.7° C) you should expect the rate of the average chemical reaction to double. The same holds true in reverse: the colder, the slower the rate of reaction.

This is why the best place to "save" your unfinished wines is the refrigerator. Simply seal the bottle and shove it in the fridge. Over the holidays, we were away for a week. I put a half-finished bottle of 2007 Castello di Farnetella Chianti Colli Senesi, which is 92 percent Sangiovese and 8 percent Merlot, by the way, in the fridge. A week later I exhumed it, let it return to room temperature and it was unchanged—and delicious.

Now, it helped that the wine was young. A vibrant, youthful fruitiness keeps better. When I've tried this with, say, a 10-year-old Chambolle-Musigny, there was indisputably some degradation in the (delicate) fruitiness of the wine. On the other hand, powerful wines such as Port or sweet wines such as Sauternes, Quarts de Chaume, Bonnezeaux or pretty much any vermouth, can retain their goodness for weeks when refrigerated.

Bottom lime: You've got the world's most effective wine preservation system right at hand in your kitchen.

Start Cellaring Cheap "Cinderella Wines”

There's a tendency—I've seen it often and I'll bet you have too—on the part of wine lovers to cellar only expensive wines that are "supposed" to be aged for a better tomorrow. The signifier, if you will, is price.

Expensive wines, by definition, deserve cellaring while the lowly priced are immediately sent to the kitchen counter. It's a Cinderella thing: No one can imagine a scullery maid as the belle of the ball.

"Cinderella wines" are those low-priced jewels that, because of obscurity, fashion or just poor marketing, don't command a price that signals "fine wine." Yet fine they are, and deserving of cellaring whether for just a year or two or as long as a decade.

While it's tempting to conclude that cheap wines don't get the compliment of cellaring because of snobbery (and sure, there's certainly some of that), mostly I think it's the persuasion of price. Everyone knows—including wine producers—that we pay more attention and give more respect to whatever is most expensive.

So it takes an effort to get past price. I suggest that you make that effort. If nothing else, it won't cost you much. So why not?

All of the wines I suggest below are absolutely drinkable upon release. But allow me to suggest that they all will reward, and in some cases even deserve, time in a cool cellar.

If I was asked about the biggest change in wine from what wine lovers knew, say, 50 years ago, I would submit that the world has never known as many "Cinderella wines" as exist today. Ask anyone who has cellared a good-quality cru Beaujolais or a great Muscadet. It's amazing how even modestly priced wines can transform with time in a cool space. But without cellaring, to borrow from Fats Waller, one would never know, would one?

For example, you might pick up a case of Delas Côtes-du-Rhône St.-Esprit or even Delas Côte-du-Ventoux, both of which will cost you not much more than 10 bucks a bottle (and even less by the case). Although they're eminently drinkable now, these Syrah-infused wines will surprise you with a year or two of cellaring. Of course, any number of Rhône jewels will do equally as well.

Italy abounds in choices, from the likes of Piedmont’s Nebbiolo d'Alba (try Renato Ratti, Marchesi di Grésy, Paitin) to reds from Apulia (the heel of the boot) made from Negroamaro, Primitivo and Malvasia Nera di Lecce. Look for producers such as Accademia dei Racemi, Michele Calò, Taurino and Leone di Castris.

Of course, Argentina and Chile offer amazing wines for the (very little) money. One zone that has lovely possibilities is Argentina's Patagonia zone, which delivers pure, precise-tasting red wines from Malbec and Cabernet Franc. Look especially for Bodega del Desierto, whose wines will get you a chunk of change from a $20 bill. Recently, I tasted a lovely Patagonia Malbec brand-named Ruta 22 from the producer Universo Austral. Cost? $10.

In Chile, I have been mightily impressed by the Carmenère from Casa Silva, especially the (admittedly more expensive) one designated Los Lingues. Still, it's $20 tops. At the low-priced end you'll be surprised, I promise, by the quality of the Carmenère from Cono Sur, a brand from Chile's biggest winery, Concha y Toro. At $10, it's a world-beater.

And don't forget Portugal. You want cheap yet cellar-worthy? Try Quinta da Espiga Tinto from the producer Casa Santos Lima. It sells for—brace yourself—$8, yet it's a beautifully made red wine blend of mostly indigenous Portuguese grapes such as Castelão (which is also known as Periquita) along with Touriga Nacional and Tinta Roriz. Also, keep a palate peeled for table wines from the Douro such as Altano, Charamba, Bago di Touriga, Duas Quintas from Ramos-Pinto and Post Scriptum (a joint venture between Bordeaux's Bruno Prats and Portugal's Symington family). Most of these can be secured for 10 bucks or less, with a few, such as Post Scriptum, hovering around $20.

The list is surprisingly huge. I haven’t even gotten to Spain (nominations anyone?), never mind Greece, Hungary and much of France. All are chockablock with cellar-worthy wines that are light on the wallet and, with a few years of aging, lovely on the palate.

Keep an Open Mind

I don't mind admitting that I have to work at this all the time. The longer you do something—I don't care what, from ditch-digging to dentistry—the more convinced you are that you've got the answers. After all, you've been at it for 10, 20, 30, 40 years? You do know something.

Nowhere is this more true than with wine. First, we're all experts about what we like. And we all figure—present company emphatically included—that because we consider ourselves pretty savvy about, say, Burgundy or Bordeaux or Chardonnay, we can extrapolate that expertise for other wines or districts. Big mistake. Amend that: really big mistake.

Recently, I heard a guy who is wine knowledgeable insist that Barbera is a grape variety that is intrinsically limited. That it should never cost more than $20 or some such arbitrary figure. And that all the hoopla over the idea of high-end Barbera was a shuck. (I've heard this same assertion about Malbecs from Argentina.) There was only one problem: He didn't know what the hell he was talking about.

We've all been there. I know I have. (It's an even greater offense in my case because I'm supposed to know what I'm talking about.) The guy who was inveighing against what he considered the "Barbera bamboozle" knows a lot about wine. He figured, "Hey, I know what I'm doing. I've tasted thousands of wines."

But every wine, especially every potentially fine wine, is its own universe, with its own aesthetic dimensions, criteria and form of beauty. There's no one-size-fits-all understanding of fine wine.

Myself, I still struggle with Sherry for example. And vin jaune from the Jura. Oxidized wines just don't reach me.

But I have (finally!) learned one lesson: With these wines and others like them that I don't "get," e.g., old-fashioned Riojas, I keep me gob shut. Well, I try to, anyway.

For what it's worth, it might be one of the better resolutions for 2011 to try to talk about what you really do know about, and not trash-talk what you're only extrapolating about.

Those are my suggestions for 2011. Now the tables are turned: What are you going to do this year? Or for that matter (dare I ask it?) what would you have this wine columnist do? Operators are standing by.

Member comments   39 comment(s)

Don Fuller — US —  January 4, 2011 4:46pm ET

I disagree on the vacuum pumps. I have used them for years with great success. The only problem is losing the seal if the opening of the bottle is too big for the stopper. Without a seal there is no vacuum.

I even have a decanter with a vacuum seal and it worked great over the holidays with a vintage port. I will try the fridge more though in combination with or in lieu of the vacuum.

Totally agree on the Cinderella wines point. Suggest the wines by Castano from Spain.

The article is a great start to the wine year!


Matt Kramer — Portland, OR —  January 4, 2011 6:14pm ET

Mr. Fuller: Thanks for your kind words. I don't mean to be disputatious, but I am obliged to point out that I've done a fair amount of research on these vacuum pumps and, well, they don't work.

The short version of the story is that in 1988 I was asked by the Wall Street Journal to evaluate the device. I agreed to do so with the condition that the Journal pay to have it tested scientifically (I performed a sensory analysis).

The Journal asked Professor David Roe of the chemistry department of Portland State University to test the gizmo. He put a little hole in a two-third's full wine bottle, inserted a short glass tube and a length of plastic tubing, and attached a vacuum gauge. Professor Roe ran the test several times. At best he achieved a vacuum of somewhat less than 70 percent.

Then, Professor Roe left the gauge attached to the bottle to see if the seal would hold the vacuum that was achieved. It didn't. He reported that the vacuum pressure diminished by 15 percent in just 90 minutes and continue to diminish.

Six years later, I again wrote about the device for Wine Spectator. Again it was tested by Professor Roe with a newly-purchased device. The results?

"The pump is more efficient, but no more effective," reported Professor Roe. "The vacuum is the same, around 70 to 75 percent. And the leak rate is the same: After two hours you lose 25 percent of the vacuum. Overnight—12 hours—the vacuum is totally gone.”

By the way, I never did hear from the manufacturer offering any scientific refutation of these findings.

Bottom line: Your best friend is your refrigerator--by far.


Rick Penner — Langley, B.C. Canada —  January 4, 2011 9:06pm ET


How is it then when I pull the rubber vacuum stopper off the bottle 24 hours later I hear a load suction/vacuum sound? This would say to me that there was still some vacuum left ??


Neil Monaghan — NY —  January 4, 2011 9:21pm ET

Matt,

Love the article. Spot on on the Cinderella wines. I discovered this about a decade ago when I fell in love with this french country red producer; I bought several of cases of his stuff. One of the labels I didn't like & thought great only 23 to go, so I kept avoiding it. By the time I had gotten through the other label (about 18 months) and tried it again, it was quit nice.

I am glad to see I am not the only one who "doesn't get" certain wines and doesn't mind admitting it.

This year I want to try some new/different grapes, last year I tried a Charbono (OK its not way out there buts its not Merlot either) or unique but not outrageously expensive producers like Andrea Franchetti at Passopisciaro (still aging a few of the 07).

I would like to see you write about these new styles, the high elevations the untried blends. I would also like you to continue to keep us honest about this wine thing. Continue to poke holes in the veil of mystery that has enveloped the consumption of old grape juice. Continue to make us rethink and re-look at what we take for fact. Wonderful as it is, we all too easily fall prey to the hype, its a 90+ wine says Stan the butcher, and I truly enjoy reading you and how bring some common sense to the table.

Here's to a great 2011.


Richard Hirth — Michigan —  January 4, 2011 9:47pm ET

One "Cinderella" wine I've enjoyed in the past with a few years of age is Wynn's Coonawarra (both Cab and Shiraz, if I recall correctly). Probably low to mid teens in price.


Michael Nappi — Staten Island, New York —  January 4, 2011 10:47pm ET

Matt,
I too use a vacuum pump, and so it is with great sadness, and just a little shame, that I write this. I guess old ideas die hard, though it will be easy enough to run my own experiment, storing wines of similar type and age using both the pump and the refrigerator methods. You know, just for the sake of keeping an ‘open mind’, taking diligent notes and making sure that I complete the assignment by finishing off both bottles.
Sorry to hear about your difficulty with sherry. It definitely is an acquired taste, but one that is worth the effort. I can remember the first time my wife and I opened a bottle of Manzanilla, we quite literally did not know what to make of it. We kept going back to it, tasting it several times over the next day or two. In the end we both decided that we liked it and have never looked back. Sherry is very food friendly and our 'go to' wine whenever we are having anything remotely Spanish.
Oh yea, great article!
Mike Nappi


Benjamin Parsons — US —  January 4, 2011 11:41pm ET

In reference to keeping an open mind please try to remember that now all 50 states have wineries and some AZ, CO, VA are producing some memorable wines. So, do a little research and look a little further than the typical CA, OR, WA, NY selections this year.


Ioannis Papadakis — Athens, Greece —  January 5, 2011 8:07am ET

I couldn't agree more, especially regarding the ageability of many budget wines. I have experienced this several times with certain humble Chianti Classicos outperforming in terms of cellaring potential many supertuscans costing several times their price. Also some of the best Cotes du Rhone and wines from the South of France (Languedoc etc.) and Italy (Puglia) show surprising ageability. Concerning my homeland Greece, the best of assyrticos from Santorini and xinomavros from Naoussa, improve signifficantly with bottle aging (5-6 years for the former and 10-15 for the latter). Regarding the New World, I have found that most low budget wines are not made to age with the exception of certain Aussies like Yalumba shiraz-viognier or Penfold's middle range. This changes of course as you move upwards to the likes of Catena Alta etc., which are wines that will blossom in the cellar.
I also agree on the "specificity of taste" ,as I would call it, issue. I have been arguing recently with a wannabe MW (loved your comment on them in your recent book) who was insisting that you either know how to taste wine, regardless of style or origin, or you simply don't. I, on the contrary, strongly believe that even the most experienced and gifted taster is a human being with personal likes and dislikes and not a tasting machine. You learn to appreciate wine in a more complete and objective way as you become more experienced, but you continue emphasizing on certain attributes more than others. This is the reason for which I trust regional experts more than anonymous tasting pannels.


Stewart Lancaster — beaver,pa —  January 5, 2011 10:20am ET

In addition to the fridge for keeping the wines, switching the wine to a smaller bottle can help reduce air exposure as well. I keep sev. splits on hand and reuse them.


Michael Haley — Eugene, OR —  January 5, 2011 10:30am ET

Damn - I am impressed! As a chemistry professor, I would have NEVER expected to see the words "Arrhenius equation" and a simple definition/example thereof used in a wine article..... :-)


Kathy Dipietro — Dallas —  January 5, 2011 10:56am ET

Matt ~ Great article! Sadly, I, too, must disagree with the thought that vacuum pumps for wine are ineffective... I cannot vouch for all brands, but have been using the VacuVin for about 15 years and it does hold off the oxidation - BUT, I pump AND refigerate the bottle/s. And,yes, they always "whoosh" when I open them.

On the note of cellaring down "everyday" wine ~ I do it all the time and have surprised many people when I pull out a two year old bottle of $9 wine and they are impressed enough to ask what I paid for the bottle. Wine lovers in the US drink their wines too young, doing themselves, the wine, and the winemaker, an injustice.

Salud! KathyD PS - the Delas? terrific!


Matt Kramer — Portland, OR —  January 5, 2011 11:46am ET

Mr. Penner: You write: "How is it then when I pull the rubber vacuum stopper off the bottle 24 hours later I hear a load suction/vacuum sound? This would say to me that there was still some vacuum left?"

I believe that you are likely correct that some small vacuum remains, which would explain the sound upon removing the seal. However, based upon Professor Roe's tests, the amount of vacuum remaining--however seductive that swooshing sound --is too little to have any efficacy. It's hard to argue with the tests, I'm afraid, tempting though it may be!


Matt Kramer — Portland, OR —  January 5, 2011 12:03pm ET

Ms. Dipietro: You write: "I, too, must disagree with the thought that vacuum pumps for wine are ineffective... I cannot vouch for all brands, but have been using the VacuVin for about 15 years and it does hold off the oxidation - BUT, I pump AND refrigerate the bottle/s. And, yes, they always "whoosh" when I open them."

As I had mentioned previously in my reply to Mr. Penner, I suspect that some small vacuum does remain which accounts for that gratifying "whoosh", as you so accurately describe it.

Your "belt and suspenders" approach of using both the vacuum device and refrigeration will guarantee you the results you describe--but really because of the refrigeration.

May I suggest that you try an experiment where you take two bottles of the same wine, remove half of the contents, "vacuum" one and leave it at room temperature for, say, five days, and simply recork (or screwcap) the other half-empty bottle and refrigerate it?

If you taste the two wines after five days--with the refrigerated wine allow to reach room temperature, of course--I'll bet you anything that the refrigerated wine will be fresher-tasting and closer to what the wine tasted like when first opened than the "vacuumed" bottle.

The results would be even more pronounced, by the way, if you did this with a dry white wine rather than a red, as the greater delicacy of white wine will magnify the difference in oxidation.

One another note, I'm delighted to hear that you, too, cellar inexpensive wines. It's amazing how impressed guests can be with the quality of good wines with a little age on them--never mind the (low) price. Here's to Cinderellas!

Thanks for writing.


David Holstrom — Portland Oregon —  January 5, 2011 12:44pm ET

Wait a second. Am I supposed to take advice from someone that misses a basic geography fact on the location of Apulia? As we all know, Apulia is the heel of the boot, not the toe. Calabria is the toe. Spectator readers are confused enough about wine, no need to misinform them on geography as well.


Matt Kramer — Portland, OR —  January 5, 2011 1:08pm ET

Mr. Holstrom: Oops! You are quite right, of course. Apulia is the heel of the Italian boot and Calabria is the toe. I never was good at that heel/toe thing in dancing, either. My apologies. It will be corrected in the text.


Andrew J Grotto — Washington, DC —  January 5, 2011 3:11pm ET

Just to echo Matt's points about the vacuum pump, I agree - they don't really work that well, in my experience, and the empirical testing that Matt describes seems pretty definitive to me.

But I've been really impressed by Wine Shield, a relatively new product. It's a disposable plastic film that essentially floats on top of your opened wine, reducing surface contact with the air (in essence, a much more convenient route than pouring wine into successively smaller bottles, a strategy that also works quite well).

The product is great because now I can keep a few bottles open at any given time and not worry about waste. (Like Matt, I always store opened wine--red or white--in the fridge.) For example, I've even kept a delicate older red Bordeaux in tip-top shape for upwards of two weeks using this product and keeping the wine in the fridge.


S Vaughn White — Park City, Utah, U.S —  January 5, 2011 3:51pm ET

Matt, you have continued to crusade against the vacu pumps for years and still call them worthless. You're the expert, but as I understand it, anytime you reduce the exposure to air you aid in the preservation. The audible "sucking" sound (as you wrote years ago) is physical proof that the amount of air has been reduced. No it's not perfect and the fridge is better on its own, but why not both. This article is called "Open to Suggestions" but on this topic, clearly you're not


Johnny Espinoza Esquivel — Wine World —  January 5, 2011 5:12pm ET

Another great topic from you Mr. Kramer! I couldn't agree more on the cinderella wines. I can't not indulge myself with wines over $150-$200+ price range. Simply put, I can't afford them. With that being said, I think of myself as retailer/wine shops worm! Always digging for good QPR wines. Then, I'm on the look for wines from regions proven to be value delivery ones! That Casa Silva wine you mention is simply awesome. And Argentina is delivering such amazing wines from malbec to cab franc to pinot noir beyond the excellent big/pricey names. And yes, many of this wines reward cellaring/holding time. The other day I opened the Cab Sauvignon "Black Label" from Wynns (Coonawarra producer) 2003 and was simply outstanding, a real treat. Bad thing is I just have one bottle left.

Wishing you the best for you and your family this 2011. Let those blog topic coming!


Mike Olszewski — Newcastle, WA, USA —  January 5, 2011 5:20pm ET

In the immortal words of Carl Spackler, “Cinderella story. Outta nowhere. A former greenskeeper, now, about to become the Masters champion. It looks like a miracle... It's in the hole! It's in the hole! It's in the hole!” Seems apropos to the discussion.

I am in solid accord with hanging on to what might be called everyday wines. At the risk of sounding like a “homer”, there are a number of Washington State wineries, making wines with good distribution, that improve with time and can be had for around a sawbuck. These tend to be the larger producers like Columbia, Silver Lake, Hyatt, Hogue, Sagelands, Arbor Crest, Maryhill, and the big dogs Columbia Crest and Ch. Ste. Michelle.

By way of example, we recently opened a bottle of a 1982 Ch. Ste. Michelle Semillon that had gotten lost in the cellar. It was fresh and resembled a well-aged Graves, very much different than what it tasted like on release. On another occasion a friend blind-tasted a group of us with a 1998 Columbia Crest Cab, which most everyone thought was a upper-level, later vintage Napa Cab. It was terrific.


Staffan Bjorlin — Los Angeles, CA —  January 5, 2011 5:39pm ET

Very interesting column. The first topic "vacuum pumps for saving wine" and the third "people thinking that they know stuff they don't" are clearly related. It would be interesting to see if anyone has data that contradicts Matt's rather than simply stating that he is wrong. I agree that the sound of the vacuum being released clearly indicates that there is a small amount of vacuum left after whatever number of hours. I don't think that Matt is trying to make the point that that is not the case, I am guessing that he is saying that it is small enough to be negligible compared to putting the bottle in the fridge. I am inclined to agree with Matt until someone presents a better argument for the pumps.

Matt: as for suggestions what I think you should do in 2011, please start reviewing more wine for the magazine. I prefer aged wine over young wine but I get the impression that most of your colleagues like their wine young (extremely young in some cases). I would love to get more recommendations from you.

Lastly, my contribution to this list of Cinderella wines: Domain Bersan Saint-Bris Sauvignon 2009 ($12 at my local wine store).


Jeremy Matouk — Port of Spain, Trinidad —  January 5, 2011 6:03pm ET

Matt, I am loathe to jump into the vacuum argument, especially having read your piece in you recent book prior to this article. I too refrigerate opened bottles and cannot dispute that temperature reduction is the single most effective method. However, in addition to refrigeration I also have used a vacuvin for years as well and like most people the logic seemed irrefutable. I read recently that the efficacy of the vacuum is not so much whether or not the stoppers hold a partial vacuum (because they certainly do that and even for up to a week or more - wetting them before insertion provides a better seal) but whether this vacuum actually 'strips' flavour from the wine. So oxidation is but one factor, 'stripping' quite another.
I have taken to creating just a very slight vacuum - if you will to counteract the effect of actually creating additional pressure in the bottle by pushing in the cork. I have found that on removing a pushed-in cork there is sometimes a slight 'pop', perhaps from some reaction between wine and air. So just as a vacuum might 'strip' the wine, additional air pressure might accelerate oxidation. A slight partial vacuum is intended to avoid both problems and I find it keeps the wines well.
I hope I have lit a fire here and look forward to hearing some real scientists weigh in on the issue, even if to prove me a fool!
As for Cinderella wines I can heartily recommend Perrin & Fils CDR's, Rasteau, Vinsobres and Cairanne. The 2007 vintage is especially good and I have cellared cases of each of them.
Another good article, Sir. I enjoy reading your stuff.


Staffan Bjorlin — Los Angeles, CA —  January 5, 2011 6:39pm ET

When you put a cork or any other stopper into a bottle, and then change the temp of the bottle (in either direction) you will get over/under pressure in the bottle which will create a sound when the stopper is removed.

The rate on any chemical reaction might have a small dependence on pressure, but that should be negligible compared to the amount of oxygen and the temperature.

It would be interesting to hear if Professor Haley has a scientific explanation for "stripping flavor" from the wine.

BTW, Matt: do you have any data on how effective the pro-grade pumps are? The ones that are used in some tasting bars that replaces the air with some inert gas?


Matt Kramer — Portland, OR —  January 5, 2011 8:31pm ET

Mr. Bjorlin: Thanks for your comments.

1. I'm very glad that you mention Saint-Bris (previously known as Sauvignon de Saint-Bris). I love this wine and have been drinking and, yes, cellaring it, for many years.

For those for whom Saint-Bris is new, allow me to say that Saint-Bris is a zone just outside the border of Chablis in northern Burgundy which creates a terrific, utterly original-tasting Sauvignon Blanc. It’s the sort of wine you serve to scoffers who doubt that soil makes a discernible difference in the character of a wine. The soil of Saint-Bris is the same as that of the best parts of Chablis, what’s called Kimmeridgean clay. It’s the only Sauvignon Blanc grown in the entire Burgundy region.

We're now seeing a number of producers of Saint-Bris crop up here in the States. For what it's worth, my two favorite producers--real benchmarks--are Alice et Olivier De Moor and Ghislaine and Jean-Hughes Goisot. By the way, Goisot also offers the extremely rare Fié Gris, which is a distinctively different-tasting relation to Sauvignon Blanc (it's also known as Sauvignon Rosé because, like Pinot Gris, it has a reddish skin).

2. As for your second comment asking about the effectiveness of the professional-grade wine preservation systems that use an inert gas such as argon, I can only offer you one man's sensory impression as I have no hard data on the subject.

My impression--and I emphasize that word--is that these systems do work, in a fashion. They do seem to keep the wine unoxidized. However, what these systems do not seem to do is preserve the fragrance of a wine, especially once the bottle is roughly half empty.

Wines such as Pinot Noir seem to me to emerge rather flat-tasting, as the aldehydes and esters that are components of the fragrance are "lost", if you will, into the argon. Yes, oxygen doesn't get in. But the scent of the wine seems to diminish.

The people who would know best--and I'd be grateful to hear from them--are restaurant and wine shop folks who work with these systems every day. They are in a far better position than I to assess the efficacy of these professional-grade inert gas systems.

Do you find that the "nose" of the inert gas-preserved wines diminishes over time? Hours? Days? Weeks? More with, say, Pinot Noir and less with, say Cabernet Sauvignon?

I'd very much like to hear your impressions.


Francis Wilden — Australia —  January 6, 2011 1:24am ET

Hi Matt,
I’ve just finished reading your latest “drinking out loud”, for which about 98% of the time I was nodding my head in heated agreement.
The piece on “Cinderella Wines” was spot on. There are so many “little” wines out there that speak so completely of their sense of place, with classical balance and poise, and yet they are largely overlooked for cellaring, as they are not from the high profile regions such as Bordeaux, Burgundy, Barolo etc.
“Stop Fussing About ‘Saving’ Opened Wine” was particularly interesting to me. As one of the principals of a wine preservation manufacturing business I damned near fell of my chair when I read this head line. “What the hell is Kramer up to now?” I asked myself. As I read beyond the headline, I started shouting “YES” as you decried the various pump “gizmos”. In my 30+ years of drinking wines from all around the world, I have NEVER ever used one of these pumps. A Nobel physics prize awaits the first person who can create a vacuum in a bottle. Plus, what some of these pumps will do is remove the (desirable) esters and aromatics from the wine, leaving it looking “scalped”.
Wine drinkers would (hopefully) assume that if heat accelerates oxidation, then the reverse applies for cold. Thus until about twelve months ago, if I wanted to “save” a wine for later, I would pour off the remainder into a soda bottle and then like you, keep it in a cool place, either in the fridge for the whites, or the reds in my Vintec at 16C.
Where I diverge from your assessment is that while the “fridge” will dramatically slow the rate of oxidation, it will not entirely prevent it. Although lowering the temperature of any organic substance will significantly slow its decay there will, as long as air is present, continue to be some deterioration & change as the various constituents of air (particularly oxygen) interact and modify the make up of organic material. Therefore about two years ago I started sparging an unfinished bottle with argon. It’s a curious anomaly that argon, the one substance which is absolutely certain to separate any contained organic matter from air actually comes from air itself.
Argon makes up about 1% of the atmosphere and has the truly extraordinary characteristic of being totally without effect on anything it comes in contact with. It won’t combine or mix with anything at all; it has no odour, no taste, no anything. It’s like absolute “nothingness”. And, most importantly, it’s around two & a half times the weight of air. Its “heavy” nothingness. Therefore, argon sparged into a container will fall as far as it can go, i.e. until it hits whatever is sitting in the container and form a gaseous layer of nothingness between whatever is in the container and the air above the argon. Without oxygen other than what is trapped within the organic matter (if any) the contents of the container will decay very, very slowly.
When used in an unfinished bottle of wine, the effect is quite dramatic. It’s a huge convenience to be able to store your opened red wines in the same way you would the unopened reds - in a cool place and always ready to serve. Whites can be stored in the fridge especially in warmer climates but they will take a little time to come up to perfect drinking temperature.
Simply keeping your open sparkling wine in the fridge is not going to preserve the carbonation. On the other hand, sparging with argon and then using a good quality sparkling wine seal, will in my experience result in the wine still being in good and “sparkling” condition four+ days later.

Argon is extremely useful on a range of other wines and beverages including cognacs, whiskies etc and indeed any alcoholic beverage where preservation of the aromatics is important.
Although there may seem to be losses of fragrance in some wines preserved with pure argon, those losses would not be into, or as a consequence of, the argon. It is quite simply impossible to combine argon with anything at all unless a very concerted effort by some very clever scientists is made with esoteric materials and then only at temperatures close to absolute zero! Argon, for all practical purposes is “nothingness” which will not mix in any sense of the word with anything else. It’s the essence of inertness.

Having said that, where a wine has been open for some time, some nominal “oxidation” will have taken place before the application of argon. So some subtle change in bouquet may be perceptible when re-opened. More likely there will be the appearance of a slightly compacted bouquet immediately after reopening. Usually the original fragrance will be restored after swirling the wine to dissipate the argon (which, since it’s heavier than air, will have poured into the glass along with the wine!)
My most recent experience of this was with a superb 2009 Beaujolais Villages Domaine du Vissoux, which re-opened 5 days after sparging with argon, displayed all of the volume and character as when it was first opened.


Jorge Curiel — Willemstad, Curacao —  January 6, 2011 9:38am ET

I can't remember ever seeing so many comments in posts! I read all and they are very interesting. I agree with and also vacuum and refirgerate but must agree that I have never had any bad experiences with VacuVin. About three weeks ago we held a tasting here at the office and we're left with two bottles of Protos Crianza, the cork was put back on both bottles after the tasting and left on my desk. The next day we vacumed both of them hoping for the best(without putting them in the refrigarator). Two days later my colleague and I each took a bottle home. I had freinds over and to my greatest surprise the wine was in incredible shape. During the tasting the wine was closed and tight not showing much fruit nor exitement. when I opened the bottle that weekend, after the "swoosh", I discovered the best bottle of Protos Crianza I have tasted in years. The wine stood open for hours the night of the tasting and was then corked and a day later vacuumed. To me the wine had it's chance to breath a bit and was then closed again, the result was just amazing. Again I to must conclude that the pumps do work. I have never had a bad experience but I would also recommend, as I usually do at home, vacuum and refrigerate.

Wonderfull article Matt, happy new year to all and I look forward to many more great articles and discussions!

Jorge Curiel - Willemstad, Curacao!!


Morewine Bishar — Del Mar, California —  January 6, 2011 3:37pm ET

This discussion of "saving" wines is very interesting. I myself am a vac-u-vin skeptic, but if I may, I would like to suggest that sometimes a wine needs significant airing to show it's best. We've been drinking the William Fevre Chablis at home lately and have discovered that these wines, various 1er Crus and even the inexpensive "Champs Royaux", open up develop a great deal of complexity and flavor interest over a period of days while only refrigerated between tastings.

Here is a case where we are not merely "saving" the wine, but developing it in an active sense. I realize that this is not true for all or even most wines, but with these Chablis, stand back and let 'em breath!

David Clark
for The Wine Connection


George Schwarz — Lake Louise, Alberta Canada —  January 6, 2011 4:59pm ET

Matt, we have been using a professional-grade preservation system for the last 15 years. The alternative of getting old and oxidized wines by the glass in a restaurant is not an option. What I personnaly find is that we keep the temperature down at about 60 degrees fahrenheit for the reds and so every time I get a glass from our Cruvinet system I will let it warm up for a few minutes and let the Riedel glass do its magic. I would compare it to pulling a cork and giving the wine some time to open.....

Matt, another great article.

George Schwarz
Post Hotel & Spa


John Noble — Whistler, BC Canada —  January 6, 2011 7:25pm ET

Hello Matt, always enjoy your column and running into you at the Wine Experience. Great feedback from your readers. One wine region that doesnt get enough press is BC Okanagan Valley. I love wines from all over the world and BC is producing world class Pinot Gris for $15 (which means you could buy it in the US for less than $10!!). And not the light, summer quaffer varieties.....I'm talking serious, complex, balanced wine. You're not too far from here......come up and give some a try!!!

John Noble


Tone Kelly — Webster NY —  January 6, 2011 7:29pm ET

Vacuum, Argon and Refrigeration will all help.
I haven't really tried Vacuum very much as the vacuum devices don't really pull much of a vacuum. If you could pull a full vacuum, the wine would boil at room temperature.
Once I found Argon gas (and you have to be sure the wine preserver has Argon and not CO2 or Nitrogen as the primary preserver - CO2 and Nitrogen will mix freely with the remaining Oxygen in the bottle and allow some of it to get to the wine.
The fail safe backup is Temperature - cooling the wine means that whatever Oxygen gets into the bottle will react much more slowly. The delta of room temperature to refrigerator temp is about 30-36, so the reaction rates of Oxygen with the wine will proceed at about 25% of the rate that they would at room temperature.

To sum up: Block the Oxygen off, then use temperature as a backup.


Brian Frerichs — Akron, OH —  January 6, 2011 9:55pm ET

Wow ... I don't normally read the comments to these articles but this one was intriguing!

Here's where I'm confused comparing my experience with using the vacuum seal devices and your more scientific & sensory results ...

I've typically got between one and three open bottles of wine in my cellar on any given day. The cellar is temperature controlled at 55 degrees. On occasion, I forget to recork a bottle with a vacuum seal but otherwise I use them religiously ... as we speak I'm drinking a nice '07 Audelssa Summit that I opened last night and had sealed up overnight and I've got a 5 day old malbec down there too that I'm probably going to sip tonight! I do however notice a distinct difference virtually every time I drink a bottle left uncorked overnight in the cellar vs. vacuum sealed ... In fact my wife and I just tossed half a bottle of '04 Greppicaia last week because I forgot to cork it and we thought it tasted terrible the next day ... regardless of the wine though, if I leave it uncorked it usually gets tossed because it tastes off. My only hypothesis based on your analysis is that I'm getting the benefit of the 55 degree cellar on all these wines and I'm getting the benefit of little more than a cork on the ones that I vacuum seal ... the ones that I don't cork are going bad because they have no seal at all despite the same storage temperature. Any logic to this? If not, I'm still confused because everything I know says that these vacuum seal devices work very well!

For what it's worth, I've sent your comments and mine to a friend that designs these devices for Metrokane (i.e. the "V-gauge") to see what he says.


John Jorgenson — Seattle, —  January 7, 2011 4:14am ET

I enjoyed your article very much. You certainly struck a nerve on the vacuum issue, and that’s good journalism. You gave honor to the many less esteemed wineries and wines and encouraged us to enjoy them over time, and that is terrific advice. I can relate a story concerning the vacuum issue that is not going to settle the issue, but it may provide circumstantial evidence to support your testimony.
There was a winery, shall remain unnamed, whose hospitality staff decided to give the vacuum pumps a try maybe ten, or a dozen years ago. It seemed to be a good practice in theory, so management bought several of the devices to be employed in the tasting room. They refrigerated their whites, but only pumped their reds and left them under the counter to be used the next day on unsuspecting customers in the tasting room. At first, there was some enthusiasm about the efficacy and they continued the practice for about six months, maybe longer. At some point during that time, I’d guess 8-10 weeks into the practice; the staff that possessed the finer pallets began to speak up about diminished quality of the product being served the customers and suggested that it could be they were putting to much faith in the vacuum. Change comes slowly in any industry, especially when that change has been endorsed by management and thus it took a lot of persuading to convince management that they were making a poor showing of their product by practicing the vacuum of left over wine bottles. Eventually the pumps were benched and only used to pump off bottles that went home with employees to be consumed with that night’s dinner. Part of the controversy, I believe, was the fact that some wines actually did improve overnight, as attested to by many, including Mr. Clark and Mr. Schwarz. I have experienced the same phenomena and have concluded that it was a mark of many really fine wines, some Cinderellas. If I experienced a bottle that was better a day or two after I opened it, I concluded that the wine was worthy of lying down for a few more years at least. Is that a theory anyone else has espoused?
On Cinderella wines, I’d have to say that a number of those I’ve experienced were quite by accident. I seldom purchase case lots preferring more variety and diversity in the limited space I have in my cellar (500-600 bottles), but occasionally we find an exceptional bottle that is very inexpensive and we do buy a case intending to consume it over the next several months. The odd thing is that there always seems to be a bottle or two that escape our attention and we find them a few years latter and enjoy the way they’ve developed. We’re not always so fortunate, but more often than not we’re rewarded by our benign neglect.
Keep up the good work, and have a happy and blessed new year.


John Jorgenson — Seattle, —  January 7, 2011 5:22am ET

On another note;
SUGGESTIONS FOR THE NEW YEAR!
First off, let me say I really have no criticism of your work at all. You do an outstanding job, as do all your associates at Wine Spectator.
But:
Why are your resume and articles not featured along with your cohorts on the Blog Page?
And:
If there were one thing I would like more of in the coming months and years, it would be more articles on more wine regions. And not just articles on the wines in regions, but on the experience in the region itself. I realize that the Spectator is not a travel magazine per say, but one article each season would be nice to experience by way of journalism that transports the reader to the area and all the splendors of the visit one might experience if they were to travel there themselves.
Case in point:
With the recent attention given to Paso Robles over the past couple years, it would be nice to read about the experience one might have if they journeyed there themselves. The video clips do a fine job explaining many of the nuances of the area, like differences in growing conditions based on altitude and micro climates, and articles like what we’re tasting helps sometimes introduce us to some of the local cuisine, but I’m talking about the more romantic experience of say, driving Peachy Canyon Road and experiencing the wild turkeys, horse ranches, wild pig and such; The old growth walnut orchards that appear to have been planted sometime shortly after Noah’s flood and the winding road that takes you back to a day when life was simpler.
I just recently retired from Boeing in Washington and downsized. That, coupled with the recent collapse of the housing market, allowed me to purchase a home in Santa Maria, CA. and I’ve made a few journeys between the two, the Peachy Canyon trip most recently. I am always dumbfounded by the beauty in wine country, regardless or where that might be. I can only offer that in my own experience it was the romance of wine country that turned me into an enthusiast. I enjoyed wine occasionally with friends and family and even bought a few bottles to put away now and again once I reached a point in life where I had a few expendable dollars, but I was introduced to Napa Valley by my brother-in-law a number of years ago and that transformed casual enjoyment into enthusiastic passion. I’m convinced that my experience could be that of many if they were only encouraged to jump in the car or on a plane and go. Spectator could be that encouragement to someone in your audience if only they would focus a bit of energy on the land and the splendor therein a bit more than the latest and greatest wines.
Send Tim Fish to Paso to wax eloquent, as he does, and fictionalize some character getting lost in the oaks, but discovering a wine that makes his mind wander. Or, send Harvey to Granada, Spain to survey the unending forests of olives and sample the local cuisine, with a focus on the mesmerizing effect it has on the mind and soul a bit more than the pallet.
That is what I’d like to read. I may be on my own here though, so like I said before . . . Keep up the good work.


Dana Nigro — New York, NY —  January 7, 2011 1:20pm ET

Hi John,

Thanks for the suggestions. Since Matt's our columnist and not in charge of assigning travel articles (although I think he does an excellent job conveying the excitement of travel and discovery in the wine regions he visits—his series of online columns on Argentina being a recent example), I'll tackle this one.

Wine Spectator magazine does cover travel to wine regions throughout the year. For example, Tim Fish did actually write a travel piece about Paso this past June, which you can find here:
http://www.winespectator.com/magazine/show/id/42632

We also regularly cover travel to Italy in our Oct. 31 issue:
http://www.winespectator.com/magazine/show/id/43594

But it's good to learn that you want to see more of this!

Happy 2011!

Dana Nigro, managing editor, WineSpectator.com


John Jorgenson — Seattle, —  January 7, 2011 4:45pm ET

Thank you for your response to my suggestion. I did enjoy Tim Fishes’ article on Paso and found it to be quite accurate and helpful. It is a perfect example for making my point though. It is a travel guide, ala Lonely Planet, and a history lesson ala Wikipedia, not the romantic novel or Disney documentary I am looking for in the future.
When my wife and I travel, we generally bring two or three travel guides with us to prepare us for what we are about to discover and guide us to points of interest. Inevitably, one of the guides will work to direct us to our destinations and provide valuable information on lodging and dining (though we do a lot of freelance wandering) and with any luck one of the guide books will paint a picture in words for us that will not only peek our interest in a given attraction, but give us such a vivid and alluring description that we recognize the place when we get there. They employ subtle phrases like finely manicured landscapes that make such a huge difference in drawing a preconceived picture in our minds. Comparing Lonely Planet to Rick Steves is like comparing Super Cuts to Jean Juarez, or Wine Spectator to . . . that other magazine. All I’m asking is that the writers put the romance back in their writing in addition to the reporting aspect of the articles. I know they are capable; they’ve shown glimpses of it in the past. You know who you’ve had contribute in the past that really gets this? Brian Loring and Maynard James Keenan have at times had me spellbound with their articles. It’s sort of like asking yourself, “Who would I rather have read the news? Katie Couric or Uncle Remus?” All I’m doing is casting a vote for more of Mr. Remus.


Michael Schulman — Westlake Village, CA —  January 7, 2011 6:33pm ET

I can't remember seeing such a tremendous response to an article before. For years I have successfully been able to keep my open bottles of wine for a week with little if any degragation by employing the following strategy which, by the way, appears to employ the best practices of a number of the above responses.
I use an injector to load the bottle with argon gas. I place the bottle in the refrigerator. When I am ready to drink, I let the bottle come to the correct temperature, pull the injector/stopper, pour the wine into a appropriate glass, blow off the argon, swirl the wine to wake it up, and enjoy.


John Jorgenson — Seattle, —  January 7, 2011 7:25pm ET

I should have said John Steinbeck. I detect a bit of Remus in your 2011 predictions.


Thomas Matthews — New York City —  January 8, 2011 9:51am ET

John Jorgenson,

Thanks for the good suggestions. We'll do our best!

Thomas Matthews
Executive editor


David Suway — Atlanta —  January 10, 2011 10:40am ET

I hate quitters. Finish the bottle and don't worry about it.


John T Ryan Iii — Pittsburgh,PA, USA —  January 11, 2011 8:59pm ET

Like your columns and presentations at the Wine Spectator Weekends. You always give the best show. I had reasonably good luck with Vacuvins on a week's cruise when I would have half a bottle at dinner and the rest at lunch the next day. I use nitrogen at home.

However, I think the most inexpensive reasonably effective preservation system is to have a stock of empty half and quarter bottles. Pour your unused wine to the top of them, plug or screw cap them and they keep well, in or out of a refrigerator.

However, keep your unused bottles under wraps. Once in Napa I let one loose in the bathroom and the #$%@ maid threw it out. Another time when I was short of them, I bought inexpensive wine (from the top volume US producer) in quarter bottles and offered it to people in the office with the request that I get the empties returned to me after use. REgards,


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