drinking out loud

I'll Show You Mine

If you show me yours
Matt Kramer
Posted: September 7, 2010

In conversations with both friends and new acquaintances, I've discovered that readers let their imaginations run freely when it comes to what wine writers actually drink. I emphasize that word because there's a big gap—a chasm, really—between tasting and drinking. I taste dozens of wines a week. My wife and I drink maybe two wines a night, perhaps half a bottle of a white and a red over the course of a dinner.

While tasting is both essential and educational, it's drinking that matters. And when I say "drinking" I'm not referring to a quantity of wine, but a quantity of time. You see, time is the most important ingredient in wine—once past the necessary business of grapes and yeasts. Time tells us more than whether a wine has aged successfully. Rather, time tells us whether a wine is worthwhile.

This is why, however good a taster you may be, you simply cannot know the worthwhileness of a wine in the minute or two you might grant it in a normal tasting setup. You simply cannot know, without drinking a wine with a meal, what it really has to say.

Ever been in a job interview? (Or conducted one, for that matter?) Did you think that you were really understood? That your character was truly able to be assessed? Think tasting vs. drinking and you've got it. Both tasting and job interviews are essential. They're sorting-out processes. But neither offers the definitive proof of substance. If they did, none of us would ever buy a wine that later disappoints us. Or have to work with someone who clearly has no business being there.

This brings me to the subject of this column: what I've been drinking. And—fair's fair—what you have been drinking. Too many “tasting” reports are just that—assessments from a quick hoist at the local wineshop or wine bar or from the front lines of a big tasting.

Me, I prefer “drinking” reports. (I like this site’s What We're Drinking Now feature for just that reason.) What have you had with a meal, over time, with friends, where the wine perhaps came alive? Or disappointed? (So much about wine involves expectations, doesn't it?)

For example:

E. & M. Berger Zweigelt Niederösterreich 2009

I love this Austrian red wine. First, it comes in a 1-liter bottle (rather than the standard 750ml size). And it's sealed with a crown cap, like a Coke bottle. (They use crown caps in the Champagne region to seal bottles during the aging period between the secondary fermentation and the disgorgement of the dead yeasts. So why not for finished wines, too?)

Zweigelt is a hybrid red variety developed in 1922 by an Austrian researcher named Fritz Zweigelt. He crossed a favorite (and very good) Austrian red grape called Blaufränkisch—which is successfully grown in Washington under the name Lemberger, by the way—and an almost unknown, aromatic member of the Pinot Noir family called St. Laurent.

Anyway, this is a marvelously light red wine that pairs beautifully with many dishes. We served it slightly cool with a simple roast chicken and it was a joy. It's so hard these days to find savory red wines that are light on their feet. Too many red wines today swagger around trying to be "important." And did I mention that it sells for 12 bucks?

Domaine Leroy Chambolle-Musigny Les Fremières 2002

Now here was a cellar jewel that is, well, "important." I don't own much Domaine Leroy (can't afford it), but when I originally tasted this wine, at Domaine Leroy, I knew I had to buy some. (Sell the house! Sell the dog!) I think it was about $175 a bottle when released. That's major money as far as I'm concerned, although it's chump change by Domaine Leroy's nosebleed standards.

We served this to a guest we wanted to flatter—and boy, did it ever! I make no secret of being a fan of Lalou Bize-Leroy and her wines. And this baby backed it up. Fabulously dense and rich, it still paired beautifully with the simple risotto we served (the more meaningful the wine, the simpler the food). Suffused with a minerality, it delivered that rarest and most precious element that distinguishes great wines from the merely good: endless layers of flavors that never fatigue or exhaust your senses. It's like diving into a bottomless pool yet never feeling like you need to come up for air. All that from a village-level wine, no less.

Cowhorn Spiral 36 White Table Wine Applegate Valley 2009

This is a new discovery for me, and it's a stunner. The Applegate Valley is in southern Oregon, about 40 miles from the California border. It's an old gold-mining area that later became farm country. The area has a history of winegrowing, but what emerged was only episodically good, as growers groped to find what worked best in this sunny, dry, cold-in the-winter, hot-in-the-summer zone. (The cool, moist Willamette Valley is 200 miles to the north, effectively a world away.)

Cowhorn Vineyard and Garden (its full and proper name) is a new entry, dating to 2005. It’s the creation of Bill and Barbara Steele; both graduates of UC, Berkeley, and both MBAs, they left Wall Street, where Bill worked as a research analyst, to settle in Jacksonville, Ore., and create this 117-acre biodynamically certified farm and vineyard (which explains the Cowhorn name).

Cowhorn's Rhône-inspired blend of Viognier (34 percent), Marsanne (33) and Roussanne (33) took me by storm—and by surprise, too. A pale lemon yellow with just a hint of green—an appetizing Chablis-like color that always seems to signal something special—it delivers scents and tastes of mineral, citrus, peach, mango, melon and a subtle spiciness.

It's a rare white wine blend that's quite so seamless, especially considering that Viognier, with its sometimes intense spiciness, can be bullying. Not so in this wine. It paired beautifully with sautéed scallops.

Apart from the sheer pleasure that this wine afforded, it reminded me of how many good, even extraordinary, wines are now created in America that most of us never see. Cowhorn Spiral 36 White Table Wine 2009, for example, is just 400 cases. So how many of us will ever come across it? The same could be said of hundreds of wines across the United States, never mind Canada. Here on the West Coast, I don't see a single wine from, say, Long Island.

This situation suggests that in a strange way, we are slowly becoming like Europe, where in many cases locals are the near-exclusive audience for local wines, and the rest of the nation is largely oblivious to what's happening just down the road. We're not quite so extreme yet, but we're getting there. The question is, is that good or bad?

Rockford Riesling Eden Valley Hand Picked 2002

One of winedom's best-kept secrets is the goodness of Australian dry Rieslings from the Clare and Eden valleys north of Adelaide. When we lived in Australia, I must have had these dry Rieslings several times a week, at least.

One of my favorites comes from Rockford, and when we returned home I went to some lengths to buy the wine here, as not much is exported. This 2002 Rockford Riesling had been aging in my cellar, and it was time well spent. It's now a fully mature dry Riesling, delivering flavors of lime, stones and a certain fullness that makes it different from, say, the exquisiteness of a Riesling from Germany's Mosel region. (Think violin compared to cello.) It was terrific with a selection of cheeses, by the way.

Louis Jadot Pernand-Vergelesses Clos de la Croix de Pierre 1996

I stumbled across this wine by accident while looking for something else in the cellar. (Does that happen to you too?) One of my near-annual "go to" red Burgundies, I buy it by the case.

Pernand-Vergelesses Clos de la Croix de Pierre is one of Jadot's overlooked treasures. Part of a larger premier cru called En Caradeux, Jadot's parcel is a choice 8.2-acre subset surrounded by an ancient stone wall, hence the designation clos, or enclosure. (This always references a former monastic holding, as only the church was allowed the privilege of walling vineyards.)

I usually don't cellar Pernand-Vergelesses, a medium-weight red wine, quite so long, although 14 years for a Jadot red is no big deal. Jadot's rather firm, austere style allows its wines to age better, and longer, than many other red Burgundies.

This '96 held up beautifully, I must say, delivering a wafting, delicate fragrance of dusty rocks, raspberry and dark cherry. Most importantly, it accompanied roast pheasant about as perfectly as could be imagined.

By the way, I had the 2002 vintage of this wine recently and it's delicious—more intense and luscious than the '96. And nowhere near needing to be drunk yet, either.

So that's the cellaring and drinking news chez Kramer. What's going on with you and your cellar? What have you been drinking these days? I look forward to hearing about it.

Member comments   24 comment(s)

Heitor Almeida — NY —  September 7, 2010 3:15pm ET

Hi Matt

Nice piece, and thanks for the wine suggestions. I still miss your column at the Oregonian. Even though I live in Illinois, I was generally able to find the wines that you recommended. My sense is that consumers who live in States with consumer-friendly shipping laws can pretty much get anything. The difficult part these days is choosing which wines to buy! Because of this, I think it is natural that we will develop a "home bias" as time goes by. When I lived in New York I used to drink a lot of Long Island and Finger Lakes wines. Since I moved here I am getting to know Norton, Chambourcin and other Midwestern specialties!
I must also say that I envy your ability to open more than one wine a night. My wife usually sticks to one glass, and it takes me 3 days to get through 2 bottles. Doesn't life seem short sometimes?


Matt Kramer — Portland, OR —  September 7, 2010 3:57pm ET

Mr. Almeida: You write, "I must also say that I envy your ability to open more than one wine a night."

Well, opening more than one bottle is no big deal. However, *drinking* more than one is another matter!

I don't think that a half bottle each of a white and a red shared by two people over the course of a dinner is that unusual--at least among wine lovers.

But maybe I'm wrong about this. Am I (yet again) the odd Matt out?


Pauline Decloedt — canada —  September 7, 2010 6:25pm ET

Matt - Recently enjoyed diverse wines with friends and family 01 Lagrange, 03 - Annick Parent Monthelie - Les Duresses, 05 Cameron Clos Electrique Pinot Noir, 05 Cristom Jessie Vineyard Pinot Noir and two British Columbia wines - 06 La Frenz Shiraz and 06 Nota Bene a Bordeaux blend.

Question: Have recently had a couple of Shiraz/Syrah - one from B.C. and a St. Joseph that had a grapefruit like taste - they were delicious - is this unusual for a red wine?


Troy Peterson — Burbank, CA —  September 7, 2010 6:29pm ET

I just gain too much weight if we open more than two or three bottles a week. How do you do it Matt?

As for what I'm drinking, check me out on Twitter at "tp096255". My CellarTracker tweets are now getting posted there, but I must warn you that I'm back-filling with old notes as I can.

Hooray for Schrader!!!


Matt Kramer — Portland, OR —  September 7, 2010 7:40pm ET

Ms. Decloedt: You ask: "Have recently had a couple of Shiraz/Syrah - one from B.C. and a St. Joseph that had a grapefruit like taste - they were delicious - is this unusual for a red wine?"

Actually, it's not that rare in a red wine. And I, too, have experienced grapefruit notes in Syrah. Usually, grapefruit notes in a red wine--and white wines too, for that matter--are a result of cool climate grape-growing.

This is especially the case with Syrah, as it's the rare red grape that performs equally well (if stylistically differently) in both cool climate sites as well as warmer ones. That's why one finds more Syrahs with grapefruit notes than, say, Cabernet Sauvignon.

Precisely because Cabernet Sauvignon performs better in moderately warm climates, you just don't see anywhere near as many cool-climate Cabs as you do with Syrah or, for that matter, Cabernet Franc. Or when you do--Bordeaux is the classic example of a cooler climate for Cabernet Sauvignon--they're usually blended with other varieties. Cool climate Syrahs, in comparison, are rarely blended.

I think that if you did a tasting of California Syrahs from only cool climates, such as Santa Lucia Highlands in Monterey County, you'll find that a good number will display a grapefruit note. As always, a little is invigorating, while a lot of grapefruit (in a red wine) can come off as screechy.

Many cool climate whites--the supreme example is Sauvignon Blanc from New Zealand's ultra-cool Marlborough district--display grapefruit (and citrus) notes.

White wines can carry off a greater intensity of such flavors more persuasively than reds, in my opinion.



Matt Kramer — Portland, OR —  September 7, 2010 7:45pm ET

Mr. Peterson: You write: "I just gain too much weight if we open more than two or three bottles a week. How do you do it Matt?"

I dunno. It must have been an unconscious deal with the devil. In exchange for my hair, I get to eat and drink pretty much with (weight gain) impunity. Otherwise, I really can't explain it.


Tom Miller — Vestavia Hills, AL —  September 7, 2010 7:59pm ET

Matt,

I agree completely with your assessment that there is a major difference between tasting and drinking. I've been writing "tasting" notes for our monthly wine group (The Tuesday Group That Meets On Thursday) since 1991. Typically we'll taste (usually double blind) and discuss 10-12 wines over 3 hours. I started writing "drinking" notes on wines I had with meals in 2002 but didn't include notes on the food until 2004 or so. I wish I had done that earlier since some of those meals were with my late Dad.

I like Pinot noir and have been drinking my 1998 and 1999 Oregon Pinots recently. The 1999 Broadley Claudia's Choice was wonderful recently with seared redfish. A 1997 Au Bon Climat Sanford & Benedict later that evening was also spectacular.

Over the Labor Day weekend, I shared the following wines with good friends at Lake St. John (Louisiana) while dining on simple grilled beef brisket and chicken:

1999 Broadley Claudia's Choice (consensus favorite: "It's like a party in my mouth and everyone's invited.")
1999 St. Innocent Seven Springs (first bottle from a case and still tight; Mark Vlossak says the Seven Springs always needs time so I'm keeping my fingers crossed)
1999 Girardin Corton Renardes (everything in harmony and drinking beautifully right now; will last)
2002 Westrey Reserve (a whiff of cork didn't deter the sweet cherry fruit and balancing acidity; still young)

We also managed to drink a 2007 Leon Barral Faugeres Jadis with some chicken, shrimp and sausage jambalaya. The dark, ripe fruit made the food even better. It was a good weekend.


Jameson Fink — Seattle, WA —  September 7, 2010 8:14pm ET

A friend who knows I love esoteric wines brough a Sardinian Vermentino that was fanatastic. I can't recall the producer, but it was a Kermit Lynch wine.

And I second your Zwiegelt pick. Hofer also makes a 1L with a crown cap; the Gruner is great, too. I love bringing these to a party; the crown cap gets a lot of incredulous looks from people!


Matt Kramer — Portland, OR —  September 7, 2010 8:30pm ET

Mr. Miller: Wonderful tasting/drinking notes. Thanks! The 1999 Oregon Pinot Noirs are showing beautifully today. It was a fine vintage. I have to say that the 2008 vintage has every likelihood of being even better than the '99s.

You mention having a (regrettably corked) bottle of 2002 Westrey Pinot Noir. I'm a very big fan of Westrey wines, especially their Pinot Noir. If I may, allow me to suggest that you try some of Westrey's 2008 Oracle Vineyard Pinot. It is, for me, one of the best 2008s I've tasted so far and--this is the clincher--it sells for a very reasonable price of $24. Westrey always delivers value, which is a big plus in my book (and wallet). All of their 2008 Pinot Noirs are outstanding, I might note.

As a lover of Burgundy--especially Corton, which you mention--I'm a big fan of Louis Jadot's Corton "Pougets". The Pougets vineyard is right where the hill of Corton swings around and changes exposure from east/southeast to south/southwest. It also transitions from reddish iron/clay soils (red Corton) to whitish chalky soil (which is where and why Chardonnay is planted, creating Corton-Charlemagne).

Pougets is right where both the exposure and soil begins to change. It's the last stop, if you will, on the train of Pinot Noir vineyards before segueing into Chardonnay and Corton-Charlemagne. Pougets creates a Pinot Noir of unusual mineral intensity and lighter weight, thanks in part to the soil. I find it one of the most intriguing Cortons, although by no means the most powerful.

Thanks for your notes. It's a great group of wines!


Paul Heagen — Cincinnati, OH —  September 7, 2010 9:28pm ET

Matt,

I will be prowling around to find your recommendations (at least the affordable ones!), but I keep getting drawn back to the opening premise -- that haste is the enemy of intimacy (my words, anyway). Drinking — appreciating the nuances and depth of a wine through the course of a meal over hours — has its contemporary parallel in the conversations that develop with friends or acquaintances over that same meal and that same wine. I discover much more about people in the second or third hour together over a meal than the initial impressions of the first hour. I am almost never disappointed (and I can only hope they are not either). Like a good wine evolves in the glass, so too does a good conversation. Wine — like relationships — flourish when they are in context.
Thanks for the reminder about time. There is plenty of it when we choose to use it well.
(By the way, I have lost my hair and go gain weight when I drink too much wine. What's that all about?!)


Thomas — Austin, TX —  September 8, 2010 12:50am ET

Drinking, lately... (favs)- 04 Roessler Red Label Pinot, 03 Trapet Ostrea, H. Billiot Brut Rsv (disg March 06), 05 Ridge Lytton West Syrah (&Viognier), 00 Dom Magellan Alta Cote du Thongue, 04 Voss Vineyards Rutheford Sauv Blanc, 05 Gessami Gramona Penedes (Solomon cuvee), 04 Ch Ksara Blanc de Blanc Bekka Valley (sauv/chard/sem), 02 Ehlers Napa Cab, 05 Verget Saint Bris, any reasonable proxy for suitably vinified Mourvedre (1 current fav), and several 07 Cotes du Rhones and 07 Napa Cab/Franc. Others of note- 08 Brewer Clifton Sta Rita Pinot, 05 Bouvier Marsannay Longeroies, 06 K Syrah Milbrandt ("youthful"), 05 Tempier Bandol (way too young), 08 Drouhin Vaudon Chablis, 06 Tenuta Casadei Sogno Mediterraneo (worth revisiting), 94 Valckenberg Madonna (followed by German words my girlfriend understands) Beerenauslese QmP, Santa Cruz Mtn Vnyds 01 Harvest Moon Cab (way, way too young still), and Dan Gatlin's Inwood 04 Temp/Cab and 05 Cornelius (the former still young, and the latter needing to be in 500ml with "late harvest" on label, but otherwise curiously interesting). Alas, the recycling's been collected so I can't give a full account, save to say there were a few unremarkable Cali chards thrown in.


James R Biddle — Dayton, OH —  September 8, 2010 10:56am ET

Drinking and eating and savoring...ahhhh. I'm back from 10 weeks in Europe. I'm masochistic enough to always seek out wines from small producers that are different from our usual drinking--that is, wines not exported to the USA. We enjoyed many memorable 3-4 hour dinners exploring wine as a "food group." Now we're trying to replicate some of the menus and find similar wines. So far, we're enjoying the whites of: 2009 Giovanni Almondo Arneis Bricco delle Cigliege Roero, 2008 Nigl Gruner Veltliner Freiheit, 2007 Disznoko Tokaji Dry Furmint, and 2009 Navarro Edelzwicker.


Matt Kramer — Portland, OR —  September 8, 2010 12:40pm ET

Mr Biddle: Ten weeks in Europe, eh? Pas mal, as the Frenchies would say. It's an enormous amount of fun drinking wine in Europe, isn't it? There are just so many producers that you never see on these shores. And the prices are so good, too!

As for repeating that same let's-try-something-new experience here in the States with American-grown wines, it's actually pretty easy--at least if you live in places where wine choices are plentiful.

I'd suggest coming up with a few search parameters, such as, say, high-elevation wines. Or wines from Anderson Valley in Mendocino County or Happy Canyon in Santa Barbara County (try Westerley Vineyards, which is a great favorite of mine). Or seeking out offbeat varieties such as Auxerrois.

As I mentioned in my column, it's impressive how many local wines we now have--that only the locals seem to know about or taste.

Thanks for writing!


Matthew Slywka — Seymour, CT —  September 8, 2010 12:47pm ET

Matt,

Great topic. One point I wanted to elaborate on was the tasting/drinking point. I can't tell you how many times at our weekly Saturday tasting in our store where we have tried something and I thought it was pretty good. I then might get a bottle for myself and upon drinking the bottle we have a tough time finishing it. It's almost like you get sick of the wine. Of course in the higher quality bottles I seldom find this but in the less expensive ones (less than $15) I get this all the time. I guess maybe it doesn't evolve in the glass like a nice bottle would to keep you interested?

Regards,

Matthew Slywka
www.oxfordliquor.com


Chris A Elerick — Orlando, FL —  September 8, 2010 12:59pm ET

matt,

you write, "This is why, however good a taster you may be, you simply cannot know the worthwhileness of a wine in the minute or two you might grant it in a normal tasting setup. You simply cannot know, without drinking a wine with a meal, what it really has to say."

so why score wines in a tasting format? i completely agree with you, by the way, and the more i learn about and enjoy wine, the more absurd scores seem to be. for us laypeople, scores are as much about context of the event as they are about content of the bottle. so there seems to be a disparity between a professional wine critic's score and the consumer's intended use of that score. if, in addition to notes on aromas and flavor profiles, a wine critic wrote, "great red wine to take to a fancy steak restaurant and impress your friends," or, "perfect chardonnay to sip on your patio and watch a sunset on an early fall evening," it seems like those notes would be better suited to aid the consumer in what to buy.


Matt Kramer — Portland, OR —  September 8, 2010 2:41pm ET

Mr. Slywka: Thanks so very much for your observation: "I can't tell you how many times at our weekly Saturday tasting in our store where we have tried something and I thought it was pretty good. I then might get a bottle for myself and upon drinking the bottle we have a tough time finishing it."

Ain't it the truth? I have witnessed (and often participated, by virtue of being in the store at the time) in many retail trade tasting situations where a wholesale distributor brings in a line-up of wines for the retailer to taste for possible purchase. Indeed, on certain days you can see a conga line of reps waiting to present their wines.

The retail staff, of necessity, can give each wine a mere minute or two (if that) to decide whether the wine deserves further consideration or even purchase. This doesn't necessarily make their judgments bad or ill-informed. But let's be honest: It's the wine version of a meat market.

As you so frankly point out, what can seem attractive and appealing on the basis of a sip or two can pall upon repeated exposure. And you're right that this tends to happen less often with more expensive wines, although I must say that some very expensive overripe California Cabernets fall into this category, at least for me.

I'd be interested to hear from other retailers (and distributors too) about this professional situation.

Thanks for your comment Mr. Slywka.


Matt Kramer — Portland, OR —  September 8, 2010 3:01pm ET

Mr. Elerick: You ask, "Why score wines in a tasting format?" As you well know the issue of scores is a never-ending discussion. And it's one that I'd as soon not get involved in here.

That noted, I do take your point (if you'll forgive the expression). Whatever one may think of scores, they are a way of knowing a taster's conclusions about a wine instantly and intuitively. That's why they're so potent. And why people like them.

The challenge of tasting is less a matter of whether you score a wine and more a matter of the values that you bring to what you're tasting. No tasting setting is perfect. It's impossible to try every wine with a meal. And I know of no wine critic who believes that tasting wines in a big line-up is absolutely perfect either.

All of us--and I include myself most emphatically--have to sift through the advice we receive, triangulating between our own palates, that of the taster offering advice and, yes--as you point out--the setting in which the wine was tasted.

Of the three elements, I'd have to say that who's doing the tasting is the most important to me, followed by calibrating what I know of the taster's preferences with my own palate. The tasting setting and structure (blind or not blind; dozens of wines or only a handful) surely matters. But for me, anyway, it's the least important of the three.


James R Biddle — Dayton, OH —  September 8, 2010 7:37pm ET

Mr. Kramer,

You said: "Of the three elements, I'd have to say that who's doing the tasting is the most important to me, followed by calibrating what I know of the taster's preferences with my own palate." While I totally agree, I consider these two as one. I respect/trust the judgment of some "tasters" over others because I've done the calibration of their judgments with my own palate. My concern is the enjoyment of a wine (not its point-reputation), and whether I could risk serving that wine to guests if I haven't tasted it. GREAT INTERACTIONS--GRAZIE!


Eduardo Arosemena Esq — Puerto Rico —  September 8, 2010 8:40pm ET

Regards from the island of enchatment, Puerto Rico. We get tons of great wines down here as we are right in between the US (we are a US territory), Europe and South America. I've really enjoyed a couple of wines as of late (even though I am an attorney I teach a wine/food pairing class once a week). I just turned 33 and got to try some good bottles from my "small but respectable cellar." I enjoyed: Failla, Keefer Ranch, Pinot Noir 2007 (was better the next day); Beaux Freres, The Upper Terrace) 2005, Aalto PS 2003 and Ciacci Piccolomini, Brunello, Vigna di Pianroso, 2001. Had a Viader 2001 from napa the other day, what a beauty. You should also try Terreus, from Tudela del Duero in Spain, the 2001 was gorgeous! As for whites, I was fortunate to be invited to a friend's house where I tried Jadot's Puligny-Montrachet, Clos Garenne Duc Magenta, 2005 and a Dom Perignon, 1996..true gems!! Best, Eduardo


Matthew Slywka — Seymour, CT —  September 8, 2010 11:05pm ET

Matt,

Glad I can contribute. One thing I also wanted to point out is a few times the reverse actually happened. I tried a wine in the store and did not like it but had it somewhere else and enjoyed it. One time in particular I tried a Cabernet from South Africa. I swore that the bottle was bad. I saved the wine and brought it back to have the owner try it the next day. He took a sip and looked at me like I was crazy and said "What's wrong with it?" I tasted it again and it was delicious. Admittedly, this was early on in my wine career but it still happens from time to time where I retry a wine that I end up liking.

Regards,

Matthew Slywka
www.oxfordliquor.com


Chris A Elerick — Orlando, FL —  September 9, 2010 4:04pm ET

Slywka,

Ever heard of Biodyanmic drinking? Pick up "When Wine Tastes Best 2010: A Biodynamic Calendar for Wine Drinkers" by Maria Thun and Matthias Thun. Some European supermarkets plan their big tasting events around these calendars so that wines show their best and people buy more. It's definitely more voodoo than science, but when DRC and other top-notch estates farm biodynamically, there must be something to it.


Matthew Slywka — Seymour, CT —  September 9, 2010 8:24pm ET

Thanks for the tip Chris!


Rudi Schweitzer — Kitchener, ON, CANADA —  September 10, 2010 4:03pm ET

Matt, in your question of Noth America becoming more "Europe-like" in terms of local offerings, I think it's both good AND bad.
Being less than 2 hours away from the Niagara area, I manage to stumble upon some amazing finds in small, very low production wineries. Daniel Lenko's 2005 Signature Chardonnay has to be one of the best Burgundian styles I've ever drank and at a fraction of the cost compared to the top French offerings.
Yet, as lucky as I am to be so close to find this gem and other similar Chardonnay's and Rieslings in my backyard...I wonder just what else I'm missing in other people's backyards across the country?
I guess one just can't have it all.


Dennis D Bishop — Shelby Twp., MI, USA —  September 12, 2010 6:57am ET

I find this to be a most interesting subject. I agree that drinking wine with a meal is perhaps the best way to fully appreciate our wines.... or the worst. There have been times when a great wine from my cellar has not paired well with the meal... or the guests. We must be great match makers if we are to experience all the potential that lies in the bottle!


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