
A long time ago, before I started writing about wine and food for a living, I was a newspaper reporter. I covered everything from fatal car crashes to rock concerts, and interviewed everyone from movie stars to murderers on death row.
A lot of the beats required little more than fearless interrogation skills and the ability to type like an AK-47, but some called for specific knowledge and experience, and that's when I learned that the line between passion and snobbishness is razor thin.
Silly me, I thought it was OK to like paintings by Grant Wood and Jackson Pollock or listen to bluegrass one minute and Wagner the next. And isn't it possible for Black Swan and The Avengers to be two of your favorite movies in recent years?
Despite all the snobs I met while covering music and movies, visual art and theater, none compare to wine snobs. The world already thinks wine lovers are snobs in the first place. If you Google the phrase "snob definition," the first result reads: "A person who believes that their tastes in a particular area are superior to those of other people: 'a wine snob.'"
You can't make that stuff up.
Obviously, there's a difference between the average guy believing all wine drinkers are snobs and the über-snobs who are just insufferable? Most wine snobs don't know they're snobs, of course, and they will argue and deny if confronted. (They can be violent when cornered, so stay alert.)
There's an easy way to tell when you're dealing with snobs: They spend more time telling you what not to drink than offering ideas on what you might like.
A good example of that are the extremists in the natural wine debate. When they tell me about the wines they're passionate about and why, they've got me hooked, but when they demonize the wines that don't fit their worldview, they're snobs.
The same is true with the debate over ripeness and alcohol levels in wine. Talk to me about the wines you love and the special place they're from, but when you start blathering about how Cabernet Sauvignons or Pinot Noirs shouldn't taste this way or that, you're a snob.
There must be something in the human psyche that triggers the need to take on "an offensive air of superiority in matters of knowledge or taste," as Merriam-Webster defines it. I have to admit that I just don't understand it, and yet I'm sure there are people who consider me a snob.
To me, it comes down to this: if you're comfortable with your passions and opinions, you shouldn't feel the need to convince other people that they're wrong.
Adam Lee — Santa Rosa, CA — June 27, 2012 11:29am ET
Reggie Mcconnell — Indiana — June 27, 2012 2:30pm ET
Hi Tim:
I encounter the same mentality from *some* classical music lovers who insist their music is superior to jazz, blues, etc. Well, it so happens that a jazz quintet typically performs pieces that are every bit as complex, sophisticated and demanding as classical music. When it comes to music there is no "best" and the same can be said of wine. "Best" is what *you* like best and if it happens to be Moscato then so be it.
Barry Brown — Napa — June 27, 2012 2:54pm ET
Tim:
Couldn't agree with you and Adam more - but it's just a sign of the times - tear something down so you feel better about yourself or you choices - very unfortunate. I love our California fruit forward wines as well as the subtlties and terroir of a Bordeaux or the strength and texture of a Brunello. There really is room for it all.
Dave Pramuk — Napa, CA, USA — June 27, 2012 3:15pm ET
Good topic, Tim.
I love the variety of wines as much as anybody and discovering new ones, but I do identify more with the less-elitist, anti-snob Zinfandel and Petite Sirah crowd. Generally these are very knowledgeable folks who are well-versed in the various wine types. However, I find them more averse to pretense and trusting of their palates enough to admit what is personally satisfying and pleasurable - as opposed to what they are supposed to be drinking.
There is one customer in the Southeast who comes to mind who collects Burgundy but keeps a good supply of our Zinfandel on hand to drink just because it gives him pleasure - as do his Burgundies.
I think wine drinkers are much more knowledgeable and eclectic than they used to be. Drink what you like.
Tim Fish — Santa Rosa, CA — June 27, 2012 3:41pm ET
Thanks for the comments everyone. So far no snobs have posted to defend themselves. Ha.
Peter Vangsness — Springfield, MA — June 27, 2012 3:43pm ET
Tim,
For me, an "enthusiast" is an interesting, knowledgeable person willing to share what they have learned in the interest of you knowing more and, hence, playing an important role in raising your appreciation level (for wine, fine cars, etc.).
A "snob" is a boorish, self-aggrandising sort whose main objective is to make every effort to appear "the expert".
I welcome the company of "enthusiasts", as they have, collectively, taught me so much about so many things.
I prefer not to suffer the company of "snobs".
Mark Lyon — Sonoma, CA; USA — June 27, 2012 8:03pm ET
Yes, there is too much "I know better than you do" in the wine world. I think one can have their opinions though on what styles are preferred without denigrating another person's wines. When I hear the term, Bordeaux is stodgy or California Reds are too high in alcohol smacks of omnipotence. There is room for everyone in the tent. However, it should be open season for criticism with bad or mediocre wine. We have to call a spade a spade. Otherwise, who needs wine critics?
David Peters — Mission Viejo, CA — June 28, 2012 3:35pm ET
If a wine is very poorly made 'swill' I may comment as such; that being said, when I drink a wine I always try to find the positive attributes which hopefully will out-weight any negatives. It's very rare, for most of us, to find & drink the 'Perfect' wine. Life is short......I feel blessed to be able to appreciate so many wonderful wines, from so many places, at so many 'price-points'. Finally, it's easier to drink an everyday wine than be in the company of 'The Wine SNOB'.
Don Rauba — Schaumburg, IL — June 29, 2012 10:29am ET
I think you're right and in particular your last sentence is spot on, Tim.
I'd even go so far as to level one more accusation against the snobs: There are those "snob victims" who, so intimidated by the advice from the snobs, that they would buy and consume wine they don't like, all in the name of conforming to someone else's standard. It's almost like a form of abuse. It takes a great degree of courage to stand up to them, particularly when they're in a position of power, such as retail specialist or wine steward/sommelier.
And yes, as you said well, there is a fine line between being enthusiastic/wanting to expose others to wines that you've found enjoyable, and giving them a "hard sell". Great blog, Tim.
Whit Thompson — Rochester, NY — July 3, 2012 11:58am ET
Great blog, Tim. One (slightly) tangental comment:
They may not fit your definition of "snobs," but I'm also amused by the people who use the comments section of Wine Spectator blogs - regardless of topic - to list the trophy wines they have in their cellar or have recently consumed.
Patricia Gonzalez B Des — Antigua Guatemala, Guatemala — July 3, 2012 6:24pm ET
Great article!
Refreshing subject & writing style, fun read. Good job!
Daniel Bleier — Austin, Texas — July 5, 2012 10:26am ET
I think I might be the first self-described "snob" to respond. To leverage the analogy used by Tim Fish, I like "Avengers" and "Black Swan", but have no palate for "Jack and Jill". Taste is subjective, so drink plonk if you want to but I will not join you or pretend it is good stuff. I am even arrogant enough to believe that pointing others to better options for what they are willing to pay is a service, if it is well intentioned and done with friendship.
William Matarese — Florida, USA — July 6, 2012 11:11am ET
Great article, Tim.
Just to be sure I'm not turning into a total wine snob, I make it a point to pop open a $6-$8 bottle every now and then. More often than not, I'll find myself thinking "This isn't bad", and the fear of developing wine snobbishness melts away with each sip.
Russell Quong — Sunnyvale, CA — July 6, 2012 2:57pm ET
Tim,
Great topic, as this is something I've thought about over the years from both sides. Namely, what are the variations of wine snobbery and which ones apply to me. And also how do I respond to snobs in a way that I'm comfortable with?
I haven't met many active snobs that directly critique my choices, but rather I've met many who are passive-aggressive, letting me know all the choices that are substandard to them. There's the region snob who is not really interested anything but specific regions/varietal combo. There's the price snob who would never admit a great bottle can be had for less than some fixed price point. And there is the production snob who cannot admit loving a wine with a large production and a modest price.
Like Daniel, I admit to being a bit of a value snob, steering others to better QPR for the types of wines they like. The key is to be well intentioned.
Eric P Perramond — Colorado Springs, CO — July 7, 2012 12:43pm ET
It's odd that we are talking about wine snobs on a site for a magazine dedicated to wine. Most of us ARE wine snobs compared to people not part of this site, or who don't read the magazine. It's also oddly ironic given that some tasting notes refer to hints of "corned beef" or my favorite "linzertorte." Really, linzertorte? Hilarious - but this was a fun piece to read, Tim. Thanks.
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Tim,
Great blog. I think it is very easy for all of us to talk about what wine we like in contrast to some other wine (and in doing so, subtly, or not so subtly, put down that other wine). It requires real effort to extol what we like and praise its virtues without putting down others. But I think it is the far better path to follow.
Adam Lee
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