exploring wine with tim fish

Who Says There's No Value in California?

Bogle is that rare winery that consistently delivers bang for the buck
Posted: Oct 5, 2011 10:25am ET

Everyone likes a good $12 bottle of wine, whether they buy wines by the case or strain their budget with just one bottle. Value is the great wine leveler.

Retail wine shelves are a big colorful blur of cheap California brands from the conglomerates, but let's be real: A lot of it is crap. The odds of finding a value label that's tasty across the board—from the Chardonnay to the Cabernet Sauvignon to the Pinot Noir—are slim to nada.

The list of those across-the-board value California producers is short, but surely Bogle Vineyard must be near the top. Search Wine Spectator's database of Bogle reviews and rarely do the wines score below 84 on our 100-point scale and seldom do they cost more than $12.

A fine example is the Bogle Zinfandel California 2009 ($11), which is soft and spicy, with lively cherry and smoky herb notes. I rated it 88 points, non-blind. On par is the Merlot California ($10), which has fresh cherry and herb aromas, flavors of plum and tomato leaf and distinctive varietal character for the price. I rated it 87 points, non-blind.

One reason that quality is high is that Bogle still uses oak barrels, not some cheaper substitute like oak chips. That's almost unheard of at this price point. Both the Zin and Merlot were 100 percent barrel-aged in American oak for 12 months.

For me, the Bogle wines are appealing for another reason: I grew up in the Midwest, so I have a soft spot for family farmers, even big ones. The Bogle family got their start in Clarksburg in the Sacramento Delta in the 1850s farming corn and sugar beets.

In the early 1970s, they started planting vineyards; at first, they sold grapes to other wineries but then launched the Bogle brand in 1979. It started out small and grew and grew and grew.

There are 300,000 cases of the 2009 Merlot alone, so this is no modest family farm. They harvest not only from their estate vineyards but also buy grapes from Monterey, Amador County, Russian River, Mendocino, Lodi and beyond. And yet whenever I talk with anyone at the winery, there's nothing slick about what they have to say. They still come off as farmers.

Matriarch Patty Bogle passed away earlier this year after a long struggle with leukemia, so the winery is in the midst of its first harvest without her. Not an easy task. But her dedication to good wines at a good price lives on. Lucky for us.

Have you tried Bogle wines? Do you have other favorite value wines from California?

Member comments   22 comment(s)

John Kmiecik — Chicago, IL —  October 5, 2011 11:30am ET

Tim, Have you tried Rabbit Ridge out of Paso Robles lately? They have many fruit-forward great drinking wines in the $8 - $16 price point.Don't get me wrong, I know they are not overly complex wines but they are delicious. In fact it's the only wine club I belong to because of the value and specials they often have. I call them my weekday wines. I have tried Bogle in the past and have enjoyed them. I think it's time to take another taste!


Paul M Hummel — Chicago, —  October 5, 2011 11:41am ET

Concannon. Another family wine with great pricing and quality.


Dry Creek Vineyard — Healdsburg —  October 5, 2011 11:42am ET

Ahem...I think think our wines are pretty darn good for the price point as well. Of course, I am only slightly biased!


Mark Lyon — Sonoma, CA; USA —  October 5, 2011 12:10pm ET

I had a glass of 2008 Bogle Petite Sirah last night at the local Thai Restaurant. It was outstanding w/o the punishing tannins that Petite Sirah's can sometimes have. It also didn't have any of the pruny or overly jamminess associated with Lodi or other "hot regions". Really well made and balanced. There is some excellent winemaking and grapes behind this brand.


Chris A Elerick — Orlando, FL —  October 5, 2011 12:12pm ET

Tim,

I definitely agree with you that Bogle produces very quaffable grocery store wine. Their Phantom, although a bit pricier than their other value-based bottlings, is a great party wine. It's nice to hear that they aren't cutting corners like some other high-production value brands.

I still believe it's tough to find value in California like you can in South America, Spain and Italy. Some California wineries that I think over deliver on quality are Honig, Two Hands Some Days Are Diamonds, Layer Cake (a little hit or miss for me), and Four Vines.


Jamie Sherman — Sacramento —  October 5, 2011 12:58pm ET

I live in Sacramento and occasionally wander over to the Bogle winery. The winery and scenery are beautiful while the general feeling is warm and relaxed. The wines always are pleasurable. The price points can't be beat. The distribution is widespread. I'm always humored when I visit a restaurant on the other side of the country and end up choosing a bottle of Bogle that was made 15 miles away from my home. Ironic but I choose it because it is always a dependable buy.


John Boccabella — Orinda CA —  October 5, 2011 1:26pm ET

For everyday wines that deliver great quality at reasonable prices, I think it is tough to beat the Bonterra lineup of wines. The Chardonnay, Sav Blanc and Cabernet are very solid wines and can be had for $10-14... They have fairly wide distribution and continually score in the 87-90 pt range.

While all of their wines are made from organically grown grapes, I almost find it a disservice to mention that as the main selling point.... I consider it an extra bonus because the quality of the wines speak for themselves....


Homer Cox — Warrenton, VA —  October 5, 2011 1:35pm ET

Tim. We tried the 2009 Kendall-Jackson Summation white @ $12 a bottle at Costco based on your dinner review and then bought a case recently. This is good and we don't drink a lot of white wine.


Tim Fish — Santa Rosa, CA —  October 5, 2011 3:58pm ET

Thanks for the comments. Some good suggestions on value wineries for future blogs.

John Kmiecik: I haven't tried the Rabbit Ridge wines since Eric moved from Sonoma. I used to be a big fan.

Chris A Elerick: Good point on South America, although from talking with readers, friends and family, it really depends where you live. South American values are fewer and farther between on the West Coast, though we can get many Two Hands and Layer Cake wines.

Homer Cox: The KJ 2009 Summation was one of my "What We're Drinking Now" wines last year. Good call.


Scott Fletcher — Chicago, IL —  October 6, 2011 12:30am ET

Tim, I read your blog earlier today and have not stopped thinking about the question you have raised. Is there any value left in CA wines? As I reviewed my cellar list to look for “value” a few wines stood out, in addition to the ones mentioned in the discussion. Tom Farella at Farella Park Vineyards makes some great wines, in particular is La Luce (Sauvignon Blanc) @ $15.00. I served this for many dinner parties this past summer and everyone loved it. Turnbull’s Sauvignon Blanc and “Old Bull” have also been go-to wines for me and both under $25.00. Maybe it is true…outside of Bogle it is difficult to identify any vineyard that is consistently producing multiple varietals with any good value, i.e. wines under $20. I am looking forward to your upcoming suggestions.


Denny Kleber — Charlotte NC —  October 6, 2011 8:40am ET

Tim,
I just recently had the 08 Bogle Petit Sirah and loved it. I found it at a local grocery store for $11 and picked it up after reading the WS rating. I went and bought more.

Have you tried Villa San-Juliette wines, just north of Paso Robles? I've had their merlots and petits which are in the $12 range and they are beauties. Their splurge wine is the Chorum ($20), a blend of Cab, Merlot and others.


Josh Moser — Sunnyvale, CA —  October 6, 2011 1:45pm ET

Tim - Bogle makes great wines, but I also like a number of the Castle Rock bottlings.


Martin Johnson — Walnut Creek, CA —  October 6, 2011 4:07pm ET

Tim, you are right on the money. The Bogle wines that I have tried have not disappointed and the values were undeniable.


Tim Mc Donald — Napa,CA —  October 6, 2011 4:09pm ET

I could not agree more Tim, Bogle year in and year out delivers good value and great taste. You are so right that you have to "find" them in a sea of average plonk. Mark Lyon makes some pretty darn good wines as does Adam from St Juliette. The Delicato family of wines can be great too under the 12 dollar ceiling. Thanks for recommending reasonably priced wines. You are spot on! Cheers!


Philip A Chauche — Germantown, MD —  October 6, 2011 5:55pm ET

I can't believe that no one has mentioned Cline as an outstanding value vintner. Right up there with any of the other names mentioned.


Don Rauba — Schaumburg, IL —  October 8, 2011 12:57am ET

Have not had great experience with Bogle... the 05 Petite Sirah was borderline for me, too vegetal. I'm more of a Sebastiani fan.


Dennis Delmonaco — Pittsburgh, PA —  October 8, 2011 9:20am ET

David Coffaro in the Dry Creek area of Sonoma County has proven to be a great buy. Their futures program is a great deal, as well! We stopped in for a tasting years ago and have been in the "vintage circle" ever since. Worth consideration for your list, Tim.


Gavin Mchugh — Nor Cal —  October 9, 2011 11:35am ET

Tim, good to see Bogle getting the recognition it deserves. Have already tried their recently released 09 Petite Sirah. It's going to be another good one!


Craig Ernst — Naperville, Il —  October 10, 2011 8:35am ET

I agree with Don,Sebastiani is it for me!


Kc Tucker — Escondido, CA USA —  October 10, 2011 3:38pm ET

McManis is also a good value wine, as is Robert Hall.


Brian Peters — Broomfield, CO —  October 10, 2011 8:24pm ET

We've been drinking a fair amount of the Castle Rock bottlings as well...the 2007 Napa Merlot is a steal at under$10 and the 2009 Oregon Pinot Gris is outstanding at under$11.


Matt Anders — New jersey —  October 14, 2011 12:18pm ET

Bogle was my go-to crowd pleaser 12 or 13 years ago, and I got away from it as my career allowed me to indulge my love for the Turleys and Ridges of the world. I recently tried their old vines zin again for a bit of nostalgia, and am glad I did. Fantastic value, in the best sense, because you aren't reminded with every sip that you are drinking such an affordable bottle.

When the holidays roll around and I have a house filled with people who might not appreciate my prized Hayne Vineyard or Geyserville bottlings, I will be happy to serve Bogle, by the case, and they will be happy to drink it.


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